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Post by Julie Chen on Jul 15, 2010 12:21:06 GMT -5
Only Nick and the Final 2 may post in here.
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Post by Nick Starcevic on Jul 15, 2010 13:18:31 GMT -5
Neither of you made any attempt to get to know me in this game.
Natalie--Numerous times I tried to spark up a conversation with you, you were nice, and that's great, but why does "nice" deserve to win. You never once started a conversation with me, plus you nominated me calling Brian and me threats. You had all your information second-hand when it came to me, and never once gave me the benefit of the doubt. My question for you is...Do you think playing "nice" is a valid reason for winning this game? In my opinion, playing "nice" doesn't really prove you're a solid game-player.
Ronnie--You were a target throughout the entire game, forcing you to rely on a strong social game. With Brian and I coming into the game, I would have at least expected some sort of welcome to the house, at the VERY least. You never once had a conversation with me. You never once made me feel like you even deserved to be in the game. It was like playing with a ghost, never visible, but your presence loomed. It seemed to me that you used your connections with season 2 to get you this far, and even THAT began to fall apart on you. I believe you were brought to the end by strong players. Therefore, your social game sucked, your competition game sucked, and your strategy was non-existent. Here is my question: Why do you deserve to be there over, say, Jase or Jen? Why should you get any votes just for being a terrible game-player?
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Post by Ronnie Talbott on Jul 15, 2010 18:58:38 GMT -5
Although I never personally messaged you, I posted regularly in the living room and other rooms engaging in overall conversation- I'm sorry that I wasn't so welcoming into the house, I was worried about my own surviving. Although my competition skill were sub-par in many accords, I did compete and was in the game- and eventually won them at the most critical times for myself. I did have alliances with people that weren't belonging to season 2- even if only a few people knew about them. My specialties were hidden from most players- secret alliances/conversations and mystery winnings (eviction swap). Although I laid as low as I could, I think that surviving 7 nominations is an accomplishment in itself. I did rely on my alliances though, there is no question about that- but in the end I won vital competitions. Again, I'm sorry for an improper welcoming, it was just another item on my plate that came after staying in the game. Thank you for a fun game and an interesting interrogation.
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Post by Natalie Cunial on Jul 16, 2010 2:51:59 GMT -5
Neither of you made any attempt to get to know me in this game. Natalie--Numerous times I tried to spark up a conversation with you, you were nice, and that's great, but why does "nice" deserve to win. You never once started a conversation with me, plus you nominated me calling Brian and me threats. You had all your information second-hand when it came to me, and never once gave me the benefit of the doubt. My question for you is...Do you think playing "nice" is a valid reason for winning this game? In my opinion, playing "nice" doesn't really prove you're a solid game-player. Nick, I think a theme for me that I really want to show in my answers is that I did NOT want to overplay this game. I knew full well that those who overplayed, played too quickly too fast (examples: Janelle, Jen, Ronnie, Matt, etc.) would be targetted early. I purposely laid back until it was necessary for me to do so. It wasn't based on a lack of ability. It was a showing of strong restraint. I won plenty of challenges, and against the very very capable David as well (and against Jen for that matter). But those final challenges I won, were not easy, but I won them all. Plus I was very social with everyone once you and Jen were gone. That was when I knew I had to play the game. I may have looked nice to you, Nick, but I think I played a game that was efficient. I got lots of information from key people most of the time instead of trying to get it from them directly - because if I had tried to do that (like coughJencough), I'd look like a huge gameplayer and I'd have a huge target on my back. But I wasn't nice to Jen - who I forced to vote you out. And I wasn't nice to you - who I put on the block despite you thinking I was good with you. I played hard when I needed but I did so and got results. I made moves that benefitted me only. I wasn't a pawn. But in reality Nick, out of all the players, I think I talked to you more than lots of others during jury phase. So while you think I didn't try to get to know you. I actually did, but I think you wanted to talk more about the game anyway rather than life. So I just went with what you were talking about. Nick, you were a threat to me, because you had Jen in love, you had David on the side helping you out and you had a strong ally with Brian (who subsequently was working with Jase on the side and Ronnie at one point in the past). You were very charming and were able to get Jen to vote out Steven - who at one point was in her F2. Anyone that can get Jen to do what you want is a strong player. Therefore you had to go.
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